Sheet Mask Shenanigans

Ever thought a hydrating face mask was just a slick way to scare off anyone at the door? Well, we took the plunge, beards and all, and let's just say, our coffee sipping technique needed some serious innovation. We wax comical about our latest foray into the world of men's self-care, sharing our skirmishes with the slippery adversaries known as sheet masks. But it's not all laughs—we also chat about the Tiny Habits method and how your better half could be your allies on this journey towards glowing skin and maybe, just maybe, glowing personalities.

Then there's the trip down memory lane to the days when facial masks were a one-trick pony: clay or peel-off, take it or leave it. We compare war stories of beauty mishaps (that time Dan turned into a lobster pre-date night, anyone?), discuss the finesse needed in mask application, and take a moment to ponder the satirical genius of "American Psycho." Korean sheet masks make an appearance, too, as we balance the wonders of convenience with the need for a discerning eye while shopping online. Spoiler alert: Dan's got a game-changing under-eye gel mask recommendation that might just make you the most awake-looking person in any Zoom meeting.

Wrapping up, we swap tales of Valentine's Day from a single guy's perspective, busting myths and toasting to "Pal-entine's Day" and self-love with the same zeal we'd apply to our newly favored face masks. And for a dose of pure heartfelt cheer, Charles recounts the joy of donning the Easter Bunny suit at a local nursing home — because who says you need to be a kid to find magic in a person-sized rabbit? Stay tuned for candid banter, unexpected skin care wisdom, and the kind of stories that make life a little bit brighter.

Transcript

Charles: 0:00

Hey, this is Charles. Welcome back to the Mindfully Masculine Podcast. In this episode, we will continue to review and discuss self-care for men by Garrett Munts, and we will also wear some masks. This episode is all about masking and face masks, and Dan and I actually put on a mask and try to record the podcast with it on our face and with mixed results. If you'd like to see what that looked like so you can see as being awkward and not just hear us being awkward, just go to youtubemindfullymasculinecom, check out our channel and you can see the latest episode there. Thanks, enjoy.

Dan: 0:37

Good afternoon, Charles. How are you?

Charles: 0:40

You look a little weird, Dan.

Dan: 0:43

What's on your face?

Charles: 0:45

This All right. We're wearing these hydrating masks because we said we would, and I don't like this.

Dan: 0:56

Yeah, you can see it doesn't really stay on very well, I think if it was like one piece. But these two piece things are a little bit frustrating.

Charles: 1:05

I feel like they may not be made for people sprouting thick, coarse facial hair.

Dan: 1:12

Well then, it should stick on my face because I definitely don't think coarse facial hair. Okay, fair, I'm going to keep the top on and pretend I'm in some sort of fancy party.

Charles: 1:26

All right, can you scoot over to your right just a little bit? There we go, yep, how's that Good? All right, yeah. So yeah, we decided to do this because we said we would do it, and I mean, it does feel nice, it feels cool, definitely cooling for sure, there's some aloe in this thing, right?

Charles: 1:46

Oh, let's see, there's 100% hydrogel, which sounds like a made up word. There's hyaluronic acid, and I don't think it's given me any more details than that. It's non-comatogenic gentle on skin, all right. So let me just start with my complaints. I feel like there should have been more. There should have been more instruction on how to get off of the backing that it was on, because as soon as I touched it it just started slipping all over the place.

Dan: 2:23

Yeah, it basically balled up in my hands.

Charles: 2:26

Yeah, and I also feel like maybe you should do this laying down so that it doesn't feel like it's constantly going to just slide off your face Would have been a good tip. Would have been a good tip at the beginning. Yeah, so I don't know. I mean, you know we talk about. It's very distracting having this on my face and in my mouth. You know what?

Dan: 2:46

take the bottom part off. I feel like I can kind of hang with the top part all right, and that's a little bit more reasonable. Okay, I mean, our mouths are perfect.

Charles: 2:59

So yeah, I don't know how much hydration was getting through my beard anyway. So, okay, tell me more about, from a tiny habits perspective, why I'm never going to do this again, why it's too much work. What's the technical reasons for why this sucks?

Dan: 3:14

Well, first of all, it's brand new right. We've never done this before, right, and so learning curve it's all new takes more energy, more time, you know, and it's just not something that are the back of our brain really has incorporated as a habit where we don't need to think about it. It's the conscious part of our brain that the prefrontal cortex that is like trying to figure out everything that we're trying to do and, you know, hold the mask the right way, put it on her face. Even that new experience of feeling, that coolness and sensation, it's all new, right. So basically, we need to rehearse it. If this is something to be a habit, we have to do it a few times and we have to do it, like, ideally, in the same spot and at the same time of the day.

Dan: 4:02

Other pieces of this right Make it easier. Like you just suggested, let's maybe lying down and make it a little bit easier, right? Um, not moving our head, not trying to do a podcast while we have it on our face. All of those things basically make this a difficult thing at the beginning. Yeah, it's kind of got to work through some of these, these barriers right, I would say, for me to ever do this again.

Charles: 4:26

this is a happy Valentine's Day, by the way. Oh, happy Valentine's Day. We're recording this on Valentine's Day, happy V-Day. And that leads me to this. Is this scenario right here? This is a hey babe, while we lay down and watch this movie, why don't you take this out of the package and put it on my face for me, please? And then, if she's not on board, it's not happening.

Dan: 4:44

Right, right Now. The other thing that could happen is when we take these off, all of a sudden, our puffy eye bags and dark circles and eyes are, like magically gone, and that might be a little bit more of an incentive. So no, we're not going to get that type of you know reward Every time we record the podcast.

Charles: 5:01

I come over half hour early. We lay in your bed next to each other with our masks on. Before we come into the studio Sounds good babe.

Dan: 5:10

But yeah, if there's a lot of unexpected reward that comes from that, that might be worse the trouble of figuring out how to do that.

Charles: 5:18

Yeah, on the surface, cooking up some heroin and put it in your arm looks like a lot of work, but for the people that are into it it feels so good that it's worth all the steps that are required.

Dan: 5:30

I'm glad you're picking up what I'm putting down.

Charles: 5:32

Yeah, I'm going to go into the next two slides now In those terms I can understand now, all right, the other advantage of only using the upper half is I can drink my coffee while we talk.

Dan: 5:42

See Now, okay, so here's a little modification, right? So we started this new habit, right, and we decided, okay, look, part of it's not working. We made it easier by removing the bottom half, and so to me, the bottom half isn't that big of a deal. It's more about the upper cheeks and eyelids and my forehead and everything else. So now, not so bad. We might be able to hang and do this for a half hour, according to the recommendation.

Charles: 6:08

Yeah, it'll stay on my face as long. Yeah, it says 15 to 30 minutes, but I'll keep it on my face until we're done and I feel like taking it off or it slides off, I don't know. But yeah, I mean, I guess I would feel a little bit like I'm wasting it, like, okay, is there a way that I can just buy the top halves, like I mean, they sell it, they sell it, they sell it. Muffin tops by themselves, without the rest of the muffin. Maybe they sell the muffin too? Yeah, they'll sell me the top of the half.

Charles: 6:35

Okay, so, if it wasn't clear, we're talking about masking this week and, according to the author, this has become a craze thanks to Korean skincare products, which I believe. My ex had some Korean-made face mask that she got off of Amazon or something, or they threw them in the box with some with a sheen order I don't remember where exactly they came from and I tried one of those and it felt pretty nice, but that was much more papery than this. So it says masks are ideal for men who like to use less product and are impatient when it comes to results. We'll see, check and check. Yeah, that's true, and they can be used as little as once a week, and even with just occasionally using them, you're supposed to get benefits toward reducing your breakouts, your dryness, your redness and your oiliness. So we'll see, I do.

Charles: 7:33

I have tried quite a few of the kinds of masks that they mentioned that Garrett mentions in this chapter.

Charles: 7:40

My grandmother, when I was growing up, she was into the clay masks and they were like I think they were bluish, green in color and you'd put those on and they would start very wet and then I would try it occasionally and then go like, put my face right in front of a oscillating fan and then you could see which parts were wet and that would it would dry up on shop, yeah, get really tight and really cakey, yeah.

Charles: 8:04

And then it took a while to get all of it. You really had to work on, especially my. My eyebrows are even thicker when I was younger than I am now because they are now, because I trimmed them now and so getting all over the blue clay out of my eyebrows took a lot of work when I was a youth. Oh, my gosh, uh, including the the eyebrow right in the middle which I have. I think I've plucked that one for enough years or it doesn't grow back with quite the vengeance that it did when I was a teenager. So, yes, I've used clay masks before and they feel good again. I like.

Dan: 8:34

I like that tight feeling you get when they dry and it's supposed to, you know, kind of suck out all of the dirt and oil and really get in there.

Charles: 8:41

Yeah, that's one of the advantages the peel-off kind, which is like a real sticky gel, like more sticky than this. I Didn't love the way they felt, but it was cool. Peel it off. It was like if you just put Elmer's glue on your hand to let it dry, if you'd peel it off or rubber cement on your hand and then peel it off, or a nice sunburn you got.

Dan: 9:00

you just kind of peel that skin right off.

Charles: 9:01

Yes, yeah, so yeah, man, speaking of which, I've been watching these videos lately on YouTube of people with Bearded dragons and iguanas helping them shed. No, yeah, really yeah, because they, I guess they shed their whole. I don't know if it's seasonally or yearly or whatever, but they shed all their skin. You know snakes do too, and occasionally, you know there's little parts that get stuck. So they go after with a pair of tongs that help their pet lizard to that's very sweet, and your new ASMR videos.

Dan: 9:37

It is one of the. Is it really? And you hear that like though?

Charles: 9:40

That's great, yeah, I like, I like that doesn't sound like, yeah, like if the skin's very brittle and they just kind of they might get up Real well, I was totally kidding about that. No, it's definitely an ASMR thing, for sure, people. I mean anything could be ASMR as long as you put a decent quality microphone up to it. So yeah, but the, that's what the, the peeling of the, of the, the mask reminds me of. So let's go through these real quick. If you're gonna do a clay mask, and all this stuff is available at your Walmarts, your Walgreens, your Amazons is your CVS's. Have I told you that I, I don't really like shopping at Walgreens anymore. I'm mostly a CVS guy now.

Dan: 10:19

Is that because of the new health insurance?

Charles: 10:22

Not only that, but yes, yes. So my health insurance company has an agreement with CVS. Cvs is willing to put in Cashier less self-checkouts and Walgreens is not willing to do that. Oh, and it drives me crazy because Every other time I go to Walgreens there's just a, especially around Florida, because Walgreens is open 24 hours a day, and so a lot of people who are here on vacation, you know, realize, oh it's, you know, almost the middle of the night and I need to go grab some drinks or some snacks or whatever.

Charles: 10:53

I'm asks you know, I'm asks, and there's these huge lines and they could, I Mean, yeah, not much, not much respect on my part for the American worker, right, I say replace them all with machine.

Dan: 11:06

Yeah, no, I. That's funny. You mentioned that because every time I'm in Walgreens it's always, there's always a line, I don't matter what time of day it is, it seems like just always a line.

Charles: 11:13

Yeah, and so for that reason I'm more of a CVS guy. But anyway, any, every place has most of these kinds of masks, definitely clay masks. I remember my my grandma used to get them at either grocery stores or Pharmacies.

Dan: 11:28

I mean back then that was probably the only kind of mask that was available. I mean, they think they have them. I think they had the peel and they had the clay and Right. I don't remember like these fancy I'm at the gel and the paper.

Charles: 11:40

I don't, I don't write. I mean, maybe they were a thing, but of course we were at world, so correct, yeah, yeah, I could have been flown right under our radars. So the thing with a clay mask that I thought was interesting Was you should leave your skin still damp for the clay mask. So you wash your face on pretty much all these. Well, a clay mask you don't completely dry your skin. You leave it a little moist when you put the clay on. Whereas an appeal off style you want to dry your face first, okay, it's good, no, yes.

Charles: 12:10

Next kind that is mentioned is the exfoliating mask. These are going to use acid to break down the bonds between your dead skin cells so that they can come off your face easier. And with this one You're gonna. It says, start with a clean face and I, it doesn't. He doesn't go out of his way to say dry or not dry, but these do have acid on them, or usually as part of an ingredient. So you should use them for the amount of time that it says to use them. Some of them are made for 20 minutes. Some of them are made to stay on all night. You don't want to confuse and you leave a 20 minute one on all night because it could irritate your skin. Probably would irritate your skin.

Dan: 12:47

I would say yeah, yeah, for sure, you gotta be careful with that. I I was using a. Was that the? That acne product that they were? So it proactive? Yeah, there was some cream or something that I had used that had been sitting around for a while on a year, a year ago. Put it on my face and it actually burned some skin off in the middle of my head and everybody thinks that's like a, a pock from chicken marks chicken pox oh, wow, mark from chicken pox, and so it's actually a Divit in my skin from that proactive.

Dan: 13:27

I called customer service. Of course they're like well, you can't prove it, so screw you, there's nothing we're gonna Wow, there's nothing we're gonna do for you. But yeah, you can, I'll show it to you later. I bet that will not be putting you in their next Information. So long story long, or hey, if it says use it for a certain period of time and it's because it's an asset, I'd like to take it seriously. Hydrating stuff not that big of a deal, yeah, with acid and stuff, yeah, Okay, so that's exfoliating mask.

Charles: 13:52

Next, sheet mask, which we talked about already. Those are the ones that seem to be the the trends from Korea, I assume south, probably not north, so much fingers crossed, yeah. So I have used those once and they feel okay. I don't like I Mean, I get the convenience of these kind that are already in sheet form, like I guess that these would be considered the hydrating masks, although I think he makes it sound like the hydrating mask you kind of rub on your face. So maybe this is a hybrid between a sheet mask and a hybrid in a hydrating mask. It's so funny there's there's probably people, mostly women, listening to this, thinking these guys sound so stupid right now. And I'm sure they're right, yeah. So anyway, sheet mask, hydrating mask.

Charles: 14:43

I do want to skip to the good part, which is where he does a review of Patrick Bateman's Skidcare routine from from the American psycho. Now I have not read the book. I hear it's a good book, but I've only seen the movie a million times and I do enjoy the movie. I think it's very funny. Is it supposed to be a black comedy? Right, yeah, yeah, I would think so, yeah, okay.

Dan: 15:07

So yeah, the the routine in the movie is so it's called it dark comedies, but you know you can call the black comedy. I guess I Think I've heard Boa.

Charles: 15:16

Have you? Yeah, I'll have to look that up, okay, I mean, let's look at. Yeah, maybe I'm just being racist, but I think I've heard it as I've heard, this would be the only time so yeah, yeah, that's interesting. I wonder. Yeah, maybe I've heard black comedy and they're referring to like scary movie or barbershop or something.

Dan: 15:34

Yeah, I could, then I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I've never heard that term before.

Charles: 15:39

Okay, I will. I will add is I'm not racist, right? I'll add an explanation of that to the intro when I record it. Okay, so, yeah, the. So basically, they showed his skin care routine and it was meant to be like look, how crazy over the top this guy's going with, how he cares about how much he looks, and then, as the author wisely points out, it's like it's pretty standard as far as a skin care routine for right, you know, 2024.

Dan: 16:06

Yeah, but when? When was American's sake? Oh, when did that come out? Was it the 90s?

Charles: 16:10

I want to say that was early 2000s, but it was you set in the 80s.

Dan: 16:17

So back then it would have been absolutely crazy yeah, or a guy to be, or even probably even on coral have such a no for an investment banker.

Charles: 16:25

Maybe that's what they did. I mean he did y'all say you make it. He also put a lot of a Lot of thought. It does business card design, which I appreciated. That's right, yeah.

Dan: 16:36

Oh they're quite a few scenes about, yeah people showing off their business card. Oh good, who's got the best?

Charles: 16:40

Yeah, okay. So what he did was he put an ice pack to depuff his eyes while he did his crunches. I'm up for half of that routine. I will. I do have a an iced Cooling mask in my refrigerator. Yeah, I have not taken it out and used it since I bought it. It went. I got it from the episode. I put it in my refrigerator, yeah, and it has set in my refrigerator the whole time. I've never actually taken it out, put it on my face to reduce my puffiness.

Dan: 17:06

You know what's funny. I have one too, and I don't think I've ever used it, it's just been sitting there. I think I've used it till I keep the sodas cool. I'm like an egg and a cooler. I think I swear to God where I've run out of room from the regular ice packs.

Charles: 17:19

Yep, good for us killing it so. So that's what he starts with, and then he uses an exfoliating gel scrub in the shower, which I'm a big fan of. Do it all the stuff in the shower, I appreciate that Followed by an herbal mint facial mask he leaves on for 10 minutes, then alcohol-free aftershave to moisturizers and an eye cream. I don't know why he needs to moisturize. That seems excessive.

Dan: 17:43

Yeah.

Charles: 17:45

Again, it's pretty standard, except for, maybe, the peel off mask. Using a peel off mitt mask every day Could have a dried effect on his skin, even with the two moisturizers. So, yeah, he would say, based on the technology available now, maybe a sheet mask With an exfoliating mask thrown there once a week. Yeah, so, okay. So shopping list where to go, as we've said grocery stores, pharmacies, box stores, wherever they have this. How much should you spend? I say go cheap, at least to start.

Charles: 18:16

How to know if something is good, go on Amazon and see what has the highest number of reviews, and one of the things now, amazon used to let you sort by the number of reviews and then they stopped doing that. Now I pay for a Google Chrome plugin that still will let me sort by reviews. That's nice, yeah, and so I think I need to get me a hold of that. Yeah, I'll see. I think it's like. I think I paid three dollars and ninety five cents per year to use it, so it's not very expensive, but it has just one extra button on Amazon and it will sort the items that you're looking now. The sponsor stuff still goes to the top, which is annoying, but after the sponsor stuff. It then orders it by what has the most the highest counter reviews because, again the I don't care If something has a straight 5.0 Stars if only two people reviewed it. Right, that means no sense. Yeah, I want, I care about best selling.

Dan: 19:09

What was the most reviews and you know what. Beware of the sponsored results, because they're not always just the top. Sometimes they sprinkle them in down to the bottom. All word sponsor right, and a lot of times it doesn't meet all the requirements that you put in that search box. Oh, definitely not. Yeah, so by or beware.

Charles: 19:26

Yes, absolutely. But I still. I still do find Amazon reviews the best way to figure out what I should and should not buy. You know, when it comes to stuff like this, certainly, okay, look for multipacks. The more you buy it once, the more money you're gonna save, okay, so we blew through that pretty quickly, which I am down to. Leave these episodes short and one chapter each. Try to remember if there's anything else I wanted to say in the beginning that I would normally spew out During our introduction.

Dan: 19:53

I do want to add something to. The other day, you some, I, yeah, my my girl introduced me to an under eye gel mask which worked really well. Put it on for like 15 minutes and it is made by Florence, by Mills from you can get my altar, you can get on Amazon and they have a number of different ones and it's just a little gel patch that goes right on your eye bags I, kind of around the body, yeah, I, so it's even less invasive, okay, and what we just put on our faces now Highly recommended. It worked really well, cooled my face, reduced my puffiness, got rid of my bags. So I wanted to Mention that as a very good option that I have firsthand experience with and I just ordered a set for myself.

Charles: 20:43

So nice, you ready, take yours off.

Dan: 20:44

I am.

Charles: 20:45

I just took mine off and here you go.

Dan: 20:47

Oh nice it.

Charles: 20:49

It feels, real good actually after taking it off, my face feels, feels any nice. It's cold, yeah, it's nice. It feels like a mix of hot and cold.

Dan: 20:58

Yeah, it feels good, I like it, and that that could feeling can also contribute to as a little reward, that getting gross to that right, yeah, might make you want to do it a little bit more often.

Charles: 21:09

Yeah, I'm trying to look. Try to see. If you look at it, you look about the same. I don't notice, like a little bit less puffy.

Dan: 21:15

Oh yeah, that's good unusual.

Charles: 21:17

Good. Thank goodness I can. I'll use all the help I can get. Yeah, yeah, so that.

Dan: 21:22

Yeah, it felt inconvenient to have on, but right after taking it off feels pretty good the mouth side were yeah, if that stayed on in some little bit of a better way, or if it was one sheet when it was kind of all attached, that might have worked better.

Charles: 21:37

Yeah, I'm thinking again late laying down. Yeah, you know, I've got. I've got this little arm next to my bed where I could put my cell phone in it. I could probably get it up pretty high so I could lay on my back with my head facing up and watch. You know, just put a timer on and watch a movie or watch some TV or some YouTube videos while I lay there. Yeah it would be a lot easier and less distracting than it was with it. You know kind of get into my mouth.

Dan: 22:00

I mean even like laying back in a chair, not that's true, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Charles: 22:04

Even sitting in a recliner would probably be much better.

Dan: 22:07

Yeah, I think. I think we loosened it up by talking.

Charles: 22:10

Yeah, so not too bad, All right. So Again, today is we're recording this on Valentine's Day. That's not exactly why I'm wearing a red and black shirt, but when I pulled it out I thought, oh, yeah, it's. Valentine's Day. This is. This will work.

Dan: 22:26

Are we still doing the Valentine's outfit, or did you do that yesterday?

Charles: 22:30

No, I was going to do that today, but then I remembered my therapy appointment was the same time as the party I was gonna go to. So now, instead of that, I'm gonna go to see my client tomorrow and Not wear the outfit and just return it to Amazon and buy some more hydrating masks. Can I with my store credit? Yeah, no, that that did not come come together as I had thought that it would, because I forgot that I had Scheduled to do the podcast with you and have my therapy appointment, and both of those would have.

Dan: 23:06

I'm a little disappointed because that was a good-looking costume.

Charles: 23:10

Yeah, maybe I'll do it next year. I'm sure they'll still have them, all right. So yeah, this is I meant to ask you, did you? You got a girlfriend this year for Valentine's Day, congratulations.

Dan: 23:23

Try not to roll your eyes to fill it next time. I hope the camera caught it.

Charles: 23:28

Did you Were did? Were you with your ex last year for Valentine's Day, or was that sort of in the gap?

Dan: 23:34

I Was those guys. It was not a good time, I am. We were on the way out. We were both kind of yeah.

Charles: 23:45

Yeah, I was, because the reason I brought that up is not just to bring back poor, you know, bad memories. Thanks, I actually had a purpose. I have never really when I've been single on Valentine's Day. I've never really struggled with the feelings of man I'm sad about this or um, this is above and me out, or anything like that. I, I enjoy Valentine's Day as a single person. Mm-hmm, I like, look at it. You know funny Lovey-dovey memes on Instagram, just like I would any other time of the year, because you know I'm such a soft romantic. Have you had Valentine's Day is when you've been single and how have you noticed being affected by that in any way? No, okay, no, um.

Dan: 24:27

For me it's really not a day that I've had like a lot of significant memories, good or bad, and I look at it really more as a marketing opportunity for Hallmark and candy companies, because I walk in my, honestly, my my opinion of Valentine's Day, my impression of Valentine's Day, my image of what Valentine's Day is, is literally walking into a Walgreen CVS and being inundated by red candy, russell Stover, different candy things. You know red hearts everywhere, the little I love you. You know smarty little pieces of chalk, the little pieces of chalk messages on them, exactly, yeah, and and some like little cute little cards that we used to hand out to each other in class. Oh, I remember that was fun, I remember that.

Dan: 25:17

Yeah, yeah. So for me it's never been a time to expect any type of huge you know declarations of love or vice versa, but I do little things here and there and I try to do things for my significant other during the year that are a little bit less expected, so it's a little bit more of a surprise.

Charles: 25:40

Yeah, and that's consistent with what we talked about. Yeah, in that five year period where we were reviewing atomic attraction, one of the pieces of advice that the author of that said was you know, don't don't give gifts on holidays just because it's expected. It means more to you know. Surprise your partner with gifts outside of those supermarket holidays.

Dan: 26:00

Yeah, and I mean, if I was on the receiving end of that as a partner too, it would absolutely mean more to me too. It just makes kind of, it just makes sense. Oh, going through your week you just thought of me when you saw this and you got this little gift from me. You know, you knew I would appreciate it or use it or need it. I mean so much more.

Charles: 26:18

Yeah, yeah, I would typically agree. I do enjoy, you know, when I do have a partner celebrating Valentine's Day, with maybe going a little over the top, sending flowers to their work so that other women at the office feel not as good as she does. But that's about me, that's not about her. I do enjoy that part of the ritual, but, yeah, when I don't have that, I never felt like, oh, what was me? I hate Valentine's Day. I wish all you people with partners would shut up. I mean, there's some people that are pretty affected by it and can get a little salty on the internet about you know, I don't want to see anything and it's like, yeah, that's like I just appreciate that you live in a world where love in its most commercial form is occasionally celebrated.

Dan: 27:04

And now they've got all these variations of it with Valentine's Day and all these other events for single people. They can get together and you know, and sharing their joy or misery of the day.

Charles: 27:15

My friend, jay and I went out one year when we were both single and called it Palo Mines Day. There we go. I just went out and got dressed up and had some good dinner and, yeah, that could be fun too. And another great reason guys should have women who are friends in their lives so that they can enjoy and support each other in situations where you might not feel as good because the calendar says you know I'm supposed to. Yeah, I mean. Option one is don't be the kind of person that gets negatively swayed by what the calendar or hallmark tells you you should do. But number two is you know, have people in your life that you can share that with and, you know, make it a good experience. That is not exactly what the ad agencies are telling you. It's supposed to be.

Dan: 27:56

One thing I do enjoy are the little packages that restaurants will sometimes put together for different holidays, oh yes, where it's like a prefix kind of meal, and a lot of times it's things that you wouldn't normally get from that restaurant. They might throw in a bottle of champagne or some chocolate in addition to, you know, filet mignon and everything else, and so I do tend to fall for those like those. Oh let me tell you, man, you know fun.

Charles: 28:23

My ex and I went to the JW Marriott last year or the one at Bonnet Creek down by Disney for Valentine's Day and they had a real nice deal where they had a hostess or somebody with a Polaroid camera who would take your picture and then put it in a little plastic frame and you could take that home with you. Yeah, so that was a nice touch. I thought, yeah, so I do like when the restaurants do a little something special like that.

Dan: 28:47

Yeah, yeah For sure, all right.

Charles: 28:49

Well, I hope everybody hearing this in mid March, or whatever it comes out, will and will have enjoyed their Valentine's Day and maybe we'll take a look at a calendar and figure out when these episodes are going to actually come out before we record them and we can talk about Easter on the week or Easter episode comes out. Oh, there we go. I don't know if I'll get to you. I think I will get to dress up as the Easter Bunny again at the nursing home that I consult for, as I've done the last couple of years, and I always, always, enjoy that, and they're not going to set up a picture day with the Easter Bunny, but there's probably going to be a party and I can probably talk him into letting me put the outfit on and hop around a little bit because, look, I as I shared, I believe, on the podcast, but everybody in my life pretty much knows One of my first jobs was the Easter Bunny at the mall where I grew up, and it's like once you're in the game and it's in your blood, I'd like to go All right.

Charles: 29:46

Thanks, dan, I appreciate it and we will talk to you next time. All right, have a good one. Wow, you made it through the whole thing, so you must like us at least a little bit, in which case you should definitely follow or subscribe to our show in your chosen podcast app. Thanks, we'll talk to you next time.