What Hairstyle Communicates Masculinity, Strength, and Dominance?

Hair is good. No hair is good. Time spent in between these two choices is not so good. We'll talk about going bald, dealing with your options, and why the best choice probably involves a razor.

Transcript

Dan:
Good morning, Charles, how are you?

Charles:
I'm well, Dan. how are you?

Dan:
I'm great.

Charles:
I'm a little hungry, as I was just saying before we start recording. I'm trying to do, See if if two meal a day schedule might work for me. Today is the first day I'm going to try it. And so I ate a big, fairly big breakfast. I had four large eggs and a good chunk of breakfast sausage, and I don't know what exactly I'll have for for dinner around, probably four o'clock, but I will supplement if necessary, with a protein shake and maybe a piece, Fruit or two, and see if I can just for convenience, two meals a day would be awesome if I can make it work, so I'm going to give it a shot and see if you know, continuing the experimentation from tiny habits, See if I can make that work for me.

Dan:
Sounds good. So what were you doing before you attempted this?

Charles:
Just grazing on whatever food I you know could get access to

Dan:
Okay so it wasn't even like formal meals. It was just kind of

Charles:
Correct.

Dan:
just whatever is. Yeah, I think this will be. I mean,

Charles:
I mean, on days days

Dan:
yeah,

Charles:
that I was home, I would you know, get some can, chicken or tuna, mix it up with some avocado Mao, and that was, you know, a quick quick lunch. but you know the days that I'm home at lunch time just there getting farther and farther between. And so it's better if I've got some other kind of strategy to to work with.

Dan:
Yeah, I mean, my thought here is if you know two meals might be a little bit of a too big of a leap, if your body is used to eating every every hour or two or something like that, So

Charles:
Yeah,

Dan:
um, what I would say is if you know if you do have snacks and stuff like that, Just you know, trying to have a piece of protein with with each snack. Um, and maybe start there. rather than trying. Just you know, Kind of quit cold turkey

Charles:
Yeah,

Dan:
almost than just do two meals. That might be. that's it, doesn't It doesn't sound like it Tough. but you know. Yeah, you're you're. That's a pretty big shift from what your body is used to right now, so

Charles:
Yeah, I'll I'll see if if rolling it out or keep in some, uh, I mean, I do. I do keep epic bars in the car. And so I've got one with me right now. If if I get in a pinch m gonna, I'm going to see how long I can go without doing

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
that and just stick into you know a piece of fruit. And because those epic bars are pretty calory dense, you know their protein dents, too, which is good, but they're They're also calory dense. Um,

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
so I'm goin. I'm goin a see if I can make protein shaken And piece of fruit work for me, but if I can't then I can grab an epic bar without feeling like I've you know, flown off the rails,

Dan:
Yeah, if you like eggs, hard boiled eggs usually travel pretty well and

Charles:
M.

Dan:
I'm a fan of the little wax baby bell cheeses

Charles:
Those are good, too.

Dan:
and

Charles:
yeah,

Dan:
actually like them when they're not. When they're out of the fridge. They're little bit warmer. You can actually taste little bit

Charles:
M.

Dan:
that you can actually taste some of the flavor when they're cold. I don't really taste much of it all. But it does you know, Because there's a little bit of protein and fat in there. It does. It is kind of wear off the My hunger pangs every once in a while. So and it travels well

Charles:
Yeah, And and also another thing we talked about was you know, just when when I feel hungry, it could be the. I'm just thirsty, and that, I need to you know, have a pre or cup of black coffee or something like that and see if you know once I drink that, Do I still feel

Dan:
Right.

Charles:
hungry or not?

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
Because yeah, I, definitely, I do follow in that category of people who mistake thirst for hunger. sometimes where

Dan:
I think it's most

Charles:
it

Dan:
of

Charles:
feels

Dan:
us.

Charles:
like my Tommy. Yeah, feels like my Tommy's telling me I'm hungry, but I really just nee Some fluid.

Dan:
Yeah, as humans, we have one hole for food and water. Hopefully, you know,

Charles:
Yeah,

Dan:
and you know, and so and so it's very difficult and you know, our feelings for thirst and hunger are very difficult to distinguish between the two. And

Charles:
Yeah,

Dan:
so you.

Charles:
All right, so uh, okay, that's a little update on my my proposed eating patterns. What's what's new with you? As far as things are going well,

Dan:
So Yeah, yesterday I decided to remember at El Fitness there's a bunch of different branches all over the place around here, which is kind of so. if I get bored at one, Jim, I can mix it

Charles:
Hm,

Dan:
up and go to a different one and it's not of like they have that much different stuff there, But just sometimes just having Ou know a different layout and you know new people walking around is just it's little bit more mentally stimulating. so I went to one

Charles:
Sure,

Dan:
in Sanford yesterday and as I was walking in, I noticed there was a small little, A shop next to it that said Message on the side, And you know immediately my brain was like I want. Now, I don't know if I want to go in there. It's probably a sketchy place, but then I noticed they had a huge, a huge pole and flag out front. that said message on it, kind of like lot of businesses will advertise. I've actually seen fitness do the same thing, and I'm like Okay, If you're

Charles:
M

Dan:
making it that obvious you're not doing anything shady. Most likely, it's probably a fairly clean place you know,

Charles:
Right.

Dan:
And it's a decent you know area. so I walked over there afterwards and I'm like, What are the odds? it's going to still be open And it was. Yeah, it was still open on a Sunday night till nine P M, and I was able to

Charles:
So

Dan:
like

Charles:
now it's back now. it's back to shady.

Dan:
right. Yeah, well right, that's what I think right. but I was like I'm like. all right. Well walkin welcome, so I just popped my head in there and yeah, I was able to. I was able to get a message and it was really was. It was. it was very good. I mean, it wasn't like a luxurious type of thing, was more of like a sports type of M. you know, therapeutic type of massage. But I definitely needed it after the gym and I was like this is a great discovery. It wasn't a

Charles:
M.

Dan:
very busy place and didn't look like it was that busy. And the fact that you can walk in so many times, I've been out and about you know, After like a long day of walking around, whatever whatever it is, I'm like I could really use a massage. And then you know all the places that you know I've had membership. that or what. They're always Especially on the weekend like it's impossible

Charles:
Yeah,

Dan:
and most of them aren't open very late. This was. this was a pleasant surprise. So you know I found I found a spot to get some some relaxation and relief. That's seems to be very flexible with my schedule when it didn't cost an arm and a leg, So that was a nice surprise. and that's what went well for me this week. So how about you?

Charles:
Was

Dan:
Yeah, go ahead.

Charles:
I've got

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
follow up questions.

Dan:
Sure,

Charles:
Was it? was it a fifty minute and was it considered a? like? a deep tissue or sports massage or relaxation? What? What do they call it?

Dan:
So it was. It was a half hour and

Charles:
Oh?

Dan:
I

Charles:
okay,

Dan:
just said, I just I was like, Can I just do back and neck and they're like. Yeah, But so it was a an older Chinese woman and she know she's like. You know, Yeah, here, and basically it was. It was full body for a half hour and it was not really she. It was just message and for the standard price it was, you know, was like it was sixty bucks for thirty minutes, but I think she went a little bit longer And she used hot stone and it was so it

Charles:
Wow,

Dan:
was deep tissue because she was strong. So she just you know, she just asked. Hey, you know, just it's good, you know, pressure wise, so I don't think they were any kind of up charges for any of the extra stuff, but she was able to figure out you find spots on me. that. I definitely had some lumps under the skin that needed to be worked out and you know

Charles:
M.

Dan:
it was painful, but good and so Yeah, and then The thing sixty minute was was only eighty dollars. so

Charles:
Okay, yeah,

Dan:
uh,

Charles:
yeah, that's

Dan:
yeah,

Charles:
That's pretty standard Without you know, going to like a hotel or something where they get crazy expensive.

Dan:
Yeah, yeah, and ah, she knew what she was doing for sure, so

Charles:
Nice.

Dan:
I'm

Charles:
congratulations.

Dan:
definitely going back, Yahya,

Charles:
All righ. well on my side, you and I had our little prepodfast pre convention get together like we've done those three times now, and

Dan:
Hm,

Charles:
I feel like we're getting better at it and we're getting better at attending those conventions. To we. We're able to, you know, look at the agenda and look at the descriptions of the sessions and be like. All right. that's Phil, or that's nonsense. That looks like a good one. That's more nonsense.

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
You know so many of these like this convention. It will be our third one, like I said, and I think it runs Starting with the first day for registration. It runs for five days, and you and I are gonna go to three of the days, because the first day in the last day we've just found to be raw, raw filler type stuff And not actually, you know good good sessions that you know, good breakout sessions that we. We need to know the information from. so,

Dan:
Yep,

Charles:
Um, and you know some people might say Well, it's five days and you paid for five days. Why aren't you going to five days? Like now, The most valuable thing Me is to only go to the things that I will find value in. And just because they're open and there you know, they've got a chair for me in an air conditioned room doesn't mean I want to take away from time with my friends or time from work or something like that. It's like if we can if we can look at this agenda and say okay, this five day convention. we really only need to be there for three days. I consider that a win. and and that's more valuable to me, not less valuable,

Dan:
Yeah, you know, and I think you know we went through and we did those those days and in the previous conventions and we realized Okay, this isn't what we need right now, And it's not to

Charles:
Right

Dan:
say that we won't do that in the future. you know, I think a lot of the other the fluffy stuff is a little bit more of an opportunity to network with other people to connect with other people. And you know where we are in terms of our podcast journey is, I feel you know, Network is always important. of course, but really Our focus is on Um, refining what we're doing and getting more active with with the you know, letting people know what we're doing and putting some structure

Charles:
Right,

Dan:
around it, and more you know, more working on the show rather than you know, working to tell people network with people at this point. So that's where. Really what we're focused on for this for this.

Charles:
Yeah, but I think we'll have a good time and we're well start attending that on Thursday morning this week and we even came up with a scheme where I'm going to park my card a near by subway, so that we don't have to both pay for hotel convention center parking, because I'm cheap like that and you're willing to go along with it,

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
So that's that works for me.

Dan:
yeah, it is is definitely not

Charles:
By

Dan:
cheap

Charles:
the way, I

Dan:
parking

Charles:
just wanted

Dan:
though,

Charles:
to.

Dan:
eh.

Charles:
I also wanted to tell you that bad news on the crumble cookies. For This week they have two. They have their classic peanut butter cookie, which is amazing,

Dan:
Uh, huh,

Charles:
and they have a French silk pie cookie where it's a little cookie that looks like an actual piece of like, like a whole French silk pie, where it's got the crust that it's filled with, like the chocolate pudding filling and the whipped cream on top, and little chocolate shavings.

Dan:
Hal.

Charles:
It's like you're buying a little three inch French silk pie, so we'll see if I'm able to resist, Though it doesn't

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
look good.

Dan:
wow, it's just something you could, something you can eat instead,

Charles:
Um,

Dan:
or, or in addition to, so that

Charles:
there's

Dan:
you don't

Charles:
lots

Dan:
need the

Charles:
of

Dan:
whole

Charles:
things

Dan:
thing

Charles:
I could eat instead, but I'm not

Dan:
right,

Charles:
going to.

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
I think I think my best strategy is to try to succor my girlfriend into splitting the French silk pie with me and trying to sucker you into splitting to cook the peanut butter cookie with me.

Dan:
Yeah, I can't do the peanut butter cookie. I'm trying. I've been pretty strict with my, you know, with my weight lost journey and made some progress, so I'm not going to derail that, but feel free to you know, if you want to give me half of it, I'll take it and I'll throw it away so it's okay.

Charles:
Oh, interesting. or maybe I'll bring it to you the first day of podcast,

Dan:
Okay,

Charles:
and you can walk around with it and tell people. my,

Dan:
Oh

Charles:
my friend of my here gave me half this cookie and I'm not supposed to eat it. So would you like

Dan:
Yeah, yeah,

Charles:
half of a peanut butter

Dan:
Oh

Charles:
cookie in exchange for putting his on your podcast, An net work?

Dan:
Deal.

Charles:
I don't know it.

Dan:
yeah,

Charles:
say, I haven't worked out all the specifics of my

Dan:
oh

Charles:
plan

Dan:
boy,

Charles:
yet, but

Dan:
yeah,

Charles:
yeah, those those two sound really good.

Dan:
They do.

Charles:
and

Dan:
They do sound

Charles:
yeah,

Dan:
delicious.

Charles:
well, we'll see. we'll see if what what I looked like at the end of the week. Now again, I have set up myself as Sunday for being my cheat day, so it is possible within the realm of things that could happen that I, I buy the cookies today or tomorrow and put them in my girlfriends freezer until Sunday, where we Both split them

Dan:
Oh, and they will be safe in that freezer until Sunday

Charles:
From her from me

Dan:
Either.

Charles:
from her. Definitely for me. I don't know. I know. I know the key combination to her to her lock, and, although having them frozen does make it a little bit harder, because I'm not going. I'm not going to chew into the thing while it's still frozen. I would have to take more deliberate actions. You know, the the ability slider is going to go up, because I would not only have to take it out of the freezer, de frost, it, and all that stuff. It does make a little more difficult being in the freezer

Dan:
Yeah, yeah, and your your motivation goes down, because if you did bite into it, it wouldn't taste as good. you know, I think

Charles:
Correct,

Dan:
things that are so

Charles:
right

Dan:
cold. Sometimes Yu don't get any flavor out of, so not that that hasn't stopped me before. I'll tell you honest with you, someti'ves I've done that, but

Charles:
It is,

Dan:
afterwards I'm like I really wasn't aware of it.

Charles:
It is funny. The very effective little road blocks we can put up or we just let up in our path, for you know, either stopping us from doing the good things we want to do or the bad things like yesterday, I went over to her place to borrow a a bit for my my drill, because she has a better selection of drill bits than I do, which I'm not ashamed to admit,

Dan:
M.

Charles:
And I

Dan:
M

Charles:
went over there and I was like, Oh, you know, last time I went to Target, I picked her up a bag of the Ben and Jerry's frozen cookie dope bites, and I was like, while I'm here, let me take a look and see if she's gotten into this bag. because if she's already gotten into the bag that I might as well take a piece or two. you know,

Dan:
Sure.

Charles:
came all the way over here, but open the freezer and see that she had not yet opened the bag and

Dan:
Wow,

Charles:
I'm like Well, I can't be the guy that you know, I buy it for. I put in her freezer for. And then also the guy that rips it open and has the first piece

Dan:
Thanks for. let me use

Charles:
do

Dan:
your

Charles:
that.

Dan:
freezer

Charles:
I'm just

Dan:
basically for my cookie, though, that's basically what you're

Charles:
Exactly

Dan:
saying.

Charles:
yeah, I just I'm just a piece of crap if I

Dan:
Uh,

Charles:
do that, so I as like all right, Well, it's not open, so I'll just put it back in the freezer and go on my way. And so that's what I did And then Yester, Yesterday we were getting ready to go on Guardians of the Galaxy and Epcawas, like. Yeah, Have you gotten into that cookie? Do yet?

Dan:
Oh, my God, you're so funny.

Charles:
She's like. No, not yea as like. Yeah, I know I looked in. I was

Dan:
What

Charles:
thinking

Dan:
are you waiting

Charles:
about

Dan:
for?

Charles:
the was thinking about getting a piece, but you hadn't opened it yet, so I, so I didn't

Dan:
Of

Charles:
because It was already open that I could pretend like I didn't have any.

Dan:
Those prompts?

Charles:
Not that I would,

Dan:
Those prompts

Charles:
but I like to have

Dan:
man,

Charles:
the option open.

Dan:
those

Charles:
They

Dan:
prompts.

Charles:
really absolutely the problems and the making it just a little bit, if more difficult for yourself was enough to keep my. keep me under that line of

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
the action line. You know All right

Dan:
It's

Charles:
well

Dan:
funny,

Charles:
enough about that. Or or maybe I'm just getting started. Maybe I should do another forty five minutes on that

Dan:
Ben on Jerry's

Charles:
Ben and Jerry's cookie do. Oh my gosh man, it's so good. The two flavors that are amazing in the chocolate hip cookie and the sugar cookie dealt with sprinkles.

Dan:
Oh,

Charles:
The sugar cookie dot may be even better. It's so good, but you can't get it at. I think I think only targets in my area have the sugar cookie dough and

Dan:
Wow,

Charles:
it's so good anyway.

Dan:
wow,

Charles:
Hey, let's talk about going balled.

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
Is Is your hair thinning out at all yet?

Dan:
Uh, it might be thinning out a little bit and I think my hair line might be receding a little bit at this point a little bit. So you know I'm I'm still not really concerned about it.

Charles:
Yeah, saying, my mind is thinning out a little bit. I noticed it when I get out of the shower and I put in the leaving conditioner that we talked about in the last episode And so you know, the leaving conditioner kind of makes the hair sort of clump together a little bit, not clump,

Dan:
Okay.

Charles:
but it kind of like falls into lines. And so if I, if I put my head down and look down at it while it's wet and it has the stuff recently applied like, Oh yeah, that does look a little bit thinner than it's looked before. and definitely I feel like I feel like this neck Woods

Dan:
M. yeah,

Charles:
used

Dan:
Me

Charles:
to

Dan:
too.

Charles:
have hair where it's

Dan:
yeah,

Charles:
kind of working its way back a little bit.

Dan:
yep.

Charles:
but yeah, upcoming baldness is not something that I spend much time thinking about at all, and hopefully by the end of this episode, guys that do spend time thinking about it will be able to spend a little bit less time, because I mean, just thrown it out there where we're going with this. It's not as bad as you probably think that it is. If you do go bald. And and I think You know there's there's real life episodes from popular culture in that where the three stars of the fast and furious movies Vindezel The Rock and Jason Statham are all bald men that are widely considered by all kinds of women to be very attractive men,

Dan:
Yep.

Charles:
because I mean, and in part because you know the there, Their lack of hair on the top of their head is not the thing that defines them. They have other things going forth, And that there, I mean, Jason, Jason Statham, Has you know the British accent and the powerful physique and the, And he said, a famous actor and he can. He can kick the top off of a soda bottle. If you've seen that viral video

Dan:
Oh no.

Charles:
he

Dan:
that's

Charles:
does.

Dan:
great.

Charles:
He does a spin kick and just hits the bottle cap and spins it right off the bottle without knocking the bottle over

Dan:
That's insane.

Charles:
the rock. Obviously has what he's got going for him. Vindesel, Uh, is not a bad looking guy. I would. I would, in my opinion, not as good looking as the other two.

Dan:
Oh,

Charles:
H. but he's got a nice deep voice, which, apparently women like it, will be talking about that in an upcoming episode. Uh,

Dan:
M.

Charles:
yeah, So this idea that, Oh no, if I, if I lose my hair, it's all over for me is like. No, That's that is just one of your features and you can use that as a strength or weakness, depending on how you approach it. Like so many of these things about You know that we can't change about ourselves whether our hair is gray, whether we're going balled, whether we're tall or short, or you know so many, you know the color of our skin or facial features. These are all things that we can you know either using our favor or we can worry about, and the answer when it comes to raising your attraction is how can I? How can I leverage this and use it in a way that makes me look as strong and as confident as I as I possibly can. So all right, uh, baldness happens to men, Cause of H. dihydrotestostr. One reacts with your hairbolicals and basically tells your hair bolicals Okay, Your job's done, Your. You don't have anything to do any more.

Dan:
Hm.

Charles:
I don't know much about dihydrotestostrone. Does that mean that if you're going balled, Is that an indicator that you've got higher testostrone levels, possibly than other men

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
or

Dan:
I think it does.

Charles:
okay,

Dan:
I think it does. you know a lot of my friends who went bald early on in life like in their twenties and stuff like that, had other typical markers of having high test of strone. So they got facial hair growth very young. They

Charles:
M.

Dan:
had a lot of body hair. Um, you know all over the place, whereas most most kids that age and stuff did not have a beard or body hair or whatever, And I think You know, it's just you know a lot of extra testostrone at that at that time, and when you have that extra testostron, your body will convert that if it has the proper endzomsand stuff to d. h. t.

Charles:
Okay, And so what if a guy you know goes you know, has some of those markers of high testostron, and goes his whole life and doesn't really have a significant hair losses. That just mean that there's physiological process in his body where his testostron, or free testostron or whatever is just not getting converted into d, h t or his hair policals, just as a biological trade of his, They just don't react to De h. T in the same way.

Dan:
Yeah, you know, I can't really answer that one way or the other, but those are.

Charles:
Okay,

Dan:
those would be my logical conclusions as. well. Yeah, I haven't looked into that specifically as to you know, the people with high test ostrom and have still have hair on their head. Why that might be? You know? so no, not sure. but I mean it could be. You know. a lot of it could be based on diet, because you know a lot of

Charles:
M.

Dan:
I'm seeing. You know. I did a little digging and stuff. There are certain types of things that we could be getting in our diet. you know, basically different types of vegetable oils. Like so So pumpkin seed oil is showing that you know it actually blocks the conversion to d. h. T.

Charles:
Oh,

Dan:
And

Charles:
interested.

Dan:
if that does, then what's to say that other other foods or the things that people have been eating or other types of things that people might be doing, could also be You know, blocking that that conversion.

Charles:
Yeah, I was just thinking when you were talking about that in those high, those indicators of high testostron. I was thinking of Mark Sisson, who you know, he's got a fairly manly looking face to me and he's getting up there in age and he's

Dan:
Hm,

Charles:
He's still in incredible shape and he's still got a very, you know lush head of hair. Least last time I looked at him, he did,

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
and you know, I wonder if if all the good decisions that he's making in that kind of primal blueprint methodology, you know if that's if that's one of the reasons that he's still Around with a ton of hair.

Dan:
Could be and now, And of course there's no Gens always coming to play to right,

Charles:
Oh yeah,

Dan:
So

Charles:
yeah,

Dan:
you know that, and then you know the whole concept of epigenetics, which is, you know the ability to active Agnes, or de active Agnes, based on environmental factors, Right, So things that we eat things that we do things that we put on our

Charles:
Right,

Dan:
skin. Things like that can also turn things on or off. so uh, yeah, I mean, you know, there are a lot of Um studies out, you know, looking at different types of supplements and medications and how they affect the H t. and whether they are you know, affect the H t throughout the body, or just at the hairpholical level, Because if it's throughout the body, then you're gonna have some some unwonted side effects. Potentially.

Charles:
Yeah, as as Dr. Drew likes to often say, there is no free lunch in nature, right you, you? You almost never get something for nothing

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
when it comes to messing with your with your body's chemistry or physiology, So let's talk about. so let's say you're guy. You're you, notice that you're going bald or you've gone balled Well. In this case, we'll talk about a guy who's going bald and you're a. You're still at a point where you've got some decisions you could make. In those decisions, The book mention Three of them, but I'll throw a fourth one out too. You could start taking propitia, which is a medication that blocks d. h. T. but it seems to you know, be a bit of a sledge hammer where it blocks testosterone. It shuts down testostrum production in your body, And so you have to deal with all the other things that happen. Um, and you know I'll go on record right now to say if I have to decide between hair or testostrone on picking testostron every time, Because you know, not only do I feel better, do I sleep better, do I, you know, have a? Even without regular work at the gym, I naturally have a well. Not naturally. I guess it would be unnaturally have a better body composition just as a result of being on test astern replacement therapy than I would. otherwise. The benefits for me, Uh, definitely outwaytuh. idea of having to decide to do something about My bald head. And

Dan:
Hm,

Charles:
so that's I know. I know, our, our society does kind of push the narrative that you know going bald is a bad thing. but then again, it also pushes a narrative of Look at the rock. Look at Jason, State and look at Vendesal.

Dan:
I think

Charles:
You know,

Dan:
right

Charles:
so

Dan:
so

Charles:
it's a confusing message.

Dan:
well, actually, if we break down exactly if we take what you just said literally and saying going bald is a problem. I would kind of agree with that right. whereas

Charles:
Okay, yeah,

Dan:
being

Charles:
I see what

Dan:
bald

Charles:
you're saying there.

Dan:
isn't

Charles:
Yeah,

Dan:
a problem, it's it's when you're You know when you're you're fighting it with either like a comb over or you know you know you're letting it grow. you know, patch. you know that the going

Charles:
Yeah,

Dan:
process. Yeah, I think you know. it's kind of like the awkward stage When when you're trying to grow your hair long, there's going to be. There's gonna be times where it just doesn't look that great. so I think Yeah, rather than you know, kind of holding on to that going part. Yeah, there's some better options. just.

Charles:
Yeah. so one thing you can do you know. in addition to you've got the props option, which I've heard, you know a lot of negative side effects that aren't even necessarily tied to low test. Astro just

Dan:
Oh, really

Charles:
changes your mood and stuff like that To. I've heard of some guy who developed some, you know, pretty bad skin conditions as a result of it.

Dan:
Well, I mean, I think those those are all related to test astern. Actually,

Charles:
Yeah,

Dan:
so

Charles:
it's true they

Dan:
mood

Charles:
could. Yeah,

Dan:
yet

Charles:
that's true.

Dan:
low mood.

Charles:
Good point.

Dan:
I know. Um, you know. that's That's one of Th tings. they told my dad because he's on Um. Basically to prevent prostate cancer from growing. One of their. One of the methods they use is to kill all your test, Astro, and even though there are some studies at that show that you can do it without actually distyouknow, You can you block your know, the prostate cancer from growing without it anyway. But yeah, low mood and also, yeah, skin issues for sure. Um, you know any time of any time. My, my, you know, my test of levels have fluctuated on my Herman. levels have fluctuated. Um, you know the same thing you look at like teen agers and stuff like that. They're breaking out all the time

Charles:
M

Dan:
because hormones are

Charles:
true.

Dan:
all over the place And it's not necessarily if they're increasing. It could be just fluctuating, increasing or decreasing that that causes that in balance, that could cause skin issues.

Charles:
Yeah, I've noticed it a little bit when when I'm on my, If I'm on t, r, T, and I also get back in the gym religiously and start doing the dead lifts and the squats and stuff like that. Then I'll get some skin skin issues too, because you know when you're doing exercises that are telling your body. Hey, we need more test, Astro. your body is like. No, I think we have plenty, and No, we need more and then as a result, Yeah, you'll notice your skinny little oily and stuff like That.

Dan:
Hm,

Charles:
Okay, so propicios an option. Hair transplants are another option. but hair transplants can not. They don't always go great. Sometimes they don't work out as their expensive, and sometimes he don't work out the way that you'd like them to two cases of where they seem to have gone really well, Are Steve Carrel from the office and La musk. Those guys definitely used to have thinner hair than they do now. and so in their cases now Guess it's possible that you know their hair transplants could have gone bad. and now they're wearing really great. Two pays. Um, Maybe we wouldn't know,

Dan:
Right,

Charles:
so that that's a. That's another option is invest in a hair piece or some sort of you know solution like that, but I would almost put that in the category of a comb over or some sort of styling where you're attempting to minimize the fact that you're that your hair is leaving you where

Dan:
M,

Charles:
It could. It could often end up looking way worse than good. you know, I know Ted dancing, Bert Reynolds, Shawn Connery, William Shatter, all sported two pays at some point and you know they, they had access to probably the best two pay makers on the planet, and in some of their cases, particularly in the case of William Shatter, it was pretty clear. Like Okay, Something something is going on up there. So you know, I think Most men. the best option is probably to go crop what you've got, really showart or shave it off entirely. You know there are. There are some cases where the ring looks good on guys.

Dan:
Hm.

Charles:
I mean, I'm thinking of Patrick Stewart, in particular, You know, he, he sported from Star Trick. The next generation started in eighty seven, and I believe Patrick Stewart was around our age as we currently are. When Starr the next generate It started and he was completely balled up top, but he had a very short cropped ring of hair around the outside and and I think that can look good. and now he's completely bald. You know, he's still. He's an older guy, but he's still a pretty good looking guy. But I would say what what I've seen Not look great. Is the whole Hogan. Look where

Dan:
Oh,

Charles:
you know you.

Dan:
yeah,

Charles:
You've got the hair only down here, but it's gone really long as well as the comb over where you know, the guy who used to wear The post office where I used to live. I mean, he had nothing from here all the way over. I mean it was. He really just had the ring, but he grew it so long and then took it all the way

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
over across the top of his head, And I mean, you know, I'm sure he's I mean, I don't know. he could ave been a great guy. He could have been a fun guy to hang out with, but it

Dan:
Even

Charles:
just

Dan:
even

Charles:
gives

Dan:
with

Charles:
the

Dan:
hair

Charles:
appearance.

Dan:
like that, I don't think so.

Charles:
Let's the thing. it gives the appearance

Dan:
I wouldn't want

Charles:
of

Dan:
to hang out with them.

Charles:
The message I got when

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
I looked at this guy and again, I don't know anything about him, but this is a guy who is attempting to deny reality either to himself or to everyone else or to both.

Dan:
Okay,

Charles:
It's like we know what's going on there. I mean, even John Mc Cane sported a come over is like. this is a guy who survived, you know, being a prisoner of war in Vana for multiple years, but he's worried about looking completely bald. So Sporting a comb over like that just doesn't add up to me.

Dan:
I mean,

Charles:
and

Dan:
you can't be an expert at everything.

Charles:
I suppose,

Dan:
I mean, you know life balances out right. I mean either, your good,

Charles:
And a part of.

Dan:
you know, you're tough prisoner

Charles:
I mean,

Dan:
of

Charles:
part

Dan:
war.

Charles:
of

Dan:
But

Charles:
it is

Dan:
maybe don't you know you don't understand style and fashion. You know it's It's kind

Charles:
Right.

Dan:
of you know.

Charles:
Part of it is when you get to a certain level of wealth and power, your you surround yourself with people who aren't going to tell you. uh, hey,

Dan:
Okay

Charles:
President Trump. your hair looks ridiculous.

Dan:
right well, I mean look, I mean, you look at Mackin and Trump. Do these people look like? Get they accept any type of constructive criticism from anybody ever? You know. I mean these are not. These are not guys that you know, ever admit they have done something wrong. I feel like you know most politicians in general at that level, but especially those two.

Charles:
Yeah,

Dan:
you know

Charles:
hey do. yeah. yeah, they both do, strike me as. Hey. let me take you aside here for a second as your friend. I think I want to. Oh, I tell you that you may want to consider something else about your hair, because nobody will tell you, but it looks like crap

Dan:
You're fired

Charles:
and that would be the last conversation you had with either of those guys. I believe you know.

Dan:
Pobably. Yeah,

Charles:
So yeah, so I would say Yeah of your options, propitia hair transplant to pay, Slash, come over or shaving it off, or or at least shaving

Dan:
So

Charles:
the area that you still have make very short, and then you know, shave the top. That's what I would do in that position

Dan:
Another option here is they can talk about In book is monoxidel, and some, they make some hairshampoos that basically help preserve. You know, some shampoo that you elp, preserve the your hairpholicals, like monoxidal der, Some other ones out there again. It's you know again. It doesn't doesn't work with everybody. it doesn't. It's not a. you know, an overnight Miracle solution, you know, and you know it doesn't necesarilly block all of the H. t. and it still could be messing with your testostrone levels as well, and I mean, don'tknw if we went into details, But basically you know that Ou know the propitia and some of these medications. The issue is that they don't actually get rid of the h. T. What they do is they don't they stop your body from producing T, H. T by stopping your body from producing thestastrone, So that's

Charles:
Right?

Dan:
that's the biggest issue there, and that's that's a no go for most men.

Charles:
Yeah, a male body without testostron doesn't function the way that it did when it had testostron. It changes quite a bit, and you know we, we see falling testostron levels across the board

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
for men, and and many of us just don't have that much extra

Dan:
I mean,

Charles:
That If we,

Dan:
yeah,

Charles:
you know, if we shut down our body's production of it, we're going to start functioning like a body of that test, Astro, and that's not great in a lot of ways.

Dan:
I mean, that's what gives us all the male characteristics So people know women who transition to men. Are they take test of their own supplementation, and men who basic transition to women take stuff to kill their test of their own. So yeah, if you like the male characteristics then then you want to make sure that you, you, you know, have a good test of torn levels. Go to a doctor. Get that, get that checked out, and we've talked about this at, you know nauseam on this podcast and stuff, but

Charles:
Yeah,

Dan:
it really you know, on a day to day basis energy levels, Clay, It not just the physical side of things, all of those things will be improved. And when you improve those things than your your good feelings, improve, your self confidence improves. and then you know you feel better. You present better in the world. You know, I think the world's a better place for it Because you. you're puttng your best self out there.

Charles:
Yeah, I wanted to just offer another message and this is something I think I've said before and we'll probably say again on this podcast when it comes to you know your your height, your hair status, the the color of your hair, the color of your eyes, the color of your skin. Any of these things that are the result of nothing you've probably done. Just you know, we, we all roll the genetic dice when when the spur meets the egg and we get what we get. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to take a lot of pride in those things that we got just as a matter of luck. And it also doesn't make sense to experience shame

Dan:
M.

Charles:
with those things

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
that are a matter of luck. So the fact that I don't I don't have a sense of pride over the fact that I still have most of my hair and it's mostly still dark brown, just like I don't take pride over Uh, how tall or short I am, depending on your perspective or you know, this beautiful white, pasty pink complexion of mind, It, Just it just is what it is because that's what I got. And so I don't think it just seems unreasonable to me to be super proud about those things or to take shame in those things, Because it's just it's beyond my control. for the most part,

Dan:
But

Charles:
So

Dan:
I think you can

Charles:
the things

Dan:
be grateful,

Charles:
that are,

Dan:
but I think you can be grateful. You

Charles:
Yes,

Dan:
on't have

Charles:
you

Dan:
to

Charles:
can't

Dan:
be.

Charles:
be grateful.

Dan:
you don't

Charles:
Yes,

Dan:
pride. but, but I think be grateful because there's always somebody who's going to, you know who who may not have those things right. And so M. Yeah, I look at it as. Yeah. I mean, I see, I had friends who went bald like twenty four. and so I'm like. Yeah, you know what? that could have been me and I got lucky.

Charles:
Yeah, yes, you did get lucky and your life might be marginally easier because you didn't have that problem. That

Dan:
Yep.

Charles:
that is something to be to have gratitude over for sure.

Dan:
Yep. yep.

Charles:
But again the pride shame scale, Just, I don't think that it should play a role in that where I'm proud that I have all my hair, or I'm ashamed that I don't have my hair. It's like it's It's not. You didn't do anything to deserve either of those conditions, So don't feel pride or shame. Just

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
feel gratitude. either way, you know, and that's that's the key right. I mean, that's the key to a happy life. Is You feel gratitude, Regardless of circumstances that all beyond your control

Dan:
Yeah, and I mean, I also want to throw out there that you know. I'm also saying Don't know. Wear these. you know, rose colored glasses where you know you. You don't ever feel bad about it like we're not saying, Deny your feelings. You know. Yeah, you know what I mean. If all right, So you know you're going to a little gray or bald earlier than you. You wanted to. You know. All right, you know, Feel those feelings you know. And and what I've you know, kind of learned over time is it's okay to feel those feel. If you feel bad about it, That's fine. But don't let that drag you down. And and basically you know, kind of have this negative filter that you put on the rest of your life. and you're holding on to these bad feelings. You know of something that really you can't do much about you know. But but that's the thing is you know there are. there are some things you could be doing and look for those. And, and just by taking action right that relieves anxiety. you know Dr. Julie Brown, I think that was Not Julie Brownell, with Dr. Julie. She, you know, Look anxiety goes, You know, if you let things spin in your head, that's what build anxiety taking action doing something. even if it's just like reading about what some options are that you could do.

Charles:
Right,

Dan:
That's going to help relieve some of that anxiety and help those you know those bad feelings come about or can go away.

Charles:
Yeah, and again, Yeah, you are entitled to feel feel good or feel bad or feel whatever you're feeling. We're not trying to tell you

Dan:
Yam.

Charles:
to change those feelings. Um, but you should also be careful not to objectively feel like my life is over or the deck is stacked so high against me now because I'm bald or gray or whatever that I can't possibly overcome this. You know, the evidence and the surveys in the science basically says, Now the neither of these things are going to. you know, as far as you're S concerned, are going to work against you so hard that you can't find love. you can't find romance. you can't find a partner. It just doesn't work that way.

Dan:
Yeah, and this this book right. So the chapter on You know one thing here about going ball, Going gray, Right is maybe three or four pages between those two chapter. Something like that. this is a two hunder and seventy six book page book about different different ways that you know you can become attractive and and do things so By by all means there is you know. that is not that. it's just one dimension of who you are

Charles:
Right.

Dan:
and how you can attract other people. So yeah, there's your

Charles:
Yeah,

Dan:
little motivational

Charles:
and

Dan:
talk from from Charles and Dan this morning.

Charles:
yeah, absolutely, and and again, the science on this is quite clear Being having gray hair is not a deal breaker for almost

Dan:
Actually,

Charles:
any women.

Dan:
it sounds like it's like reading this some of the stuff. It's

Charles:
Yes,

Dan:
It's actually an enhancement right for you. Ttractiveness as Well as you know, I think the study was you. women, said that the bald men on on some of these studies actually were more attractive than the men with full heads of hair.

Charles:
Yeah, the word specifically that it used was men who are bald. men with shaved heads look more dominant than men that have hair. And so, M. yeah, there's definitely a way that you can use what you perceive might be a weakness as a strength if you're willing to do that. and again you know you're your bald head or your gray head is not your problem. That is keeping you

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
from being attractive. You're obsessing over it and thinking that it's Your problem, is what is going to turn into your problem

Dan:
Right,

Charles:
And that's It's hard not to do that when you when you feel like, Oh no, this thing is, I've got to deal with this horrible huge obstacle in my life and there's nothing I can do about it. You know that getting stuck in that spiral is what will make you an attractive and just being able to say Yeah, this is the hand I was dealt and I'm going to turn it into a winner. Um, that's That's the attitude that will lead you to be more attractive.

Dan:
And you know it's It's also another case for finding the right circle of friends or a therapist or a coach to give you an additional perspective. Right to kind of just say all right, you know. listen, you know and say okay, I hear, I hear where you're coming from on your thoughts about going gray or going balled.

Charles:
M.

Dan:
But have you ever thought about this as long as you're open

Charles:
right,

Dan:
to, you know to other ideas and willing to share some of your feelings of you know Purity about those things. asking for help sometimes is a short cut to getting over it and through it.

Charles:
Yeah, no, I. I agree. having having those people in your life is essential. And if if you've got you know friend group that you have not a single one of them that you can share your your insecurities or your anxieties with, then you need to get some additional. If not swap out those friends for better ones. you know,

Dan:
And you could just write to Charles at mindfully masculine dot com and he will be happy to be your friend.

Charles:
Yes and I, I will be the kind of friend that you know. Donald Trump and John Mackie do not have where If if you're if you're doing something with your look that is silly and its people are snickering about behind your back, I'll be the one to tell you so,

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
And then we might not be friends any more. I don't know we'll see, but that's that's a risk I'm willing to take.

Dan:
But but you know he'll do it in a way where it's you know where it's kind, but effective at the same time, he's very. He's quite the word Smith, so that's that's my, My advocacy for Charles.

Charles:
Yeah, I would definitely attack it from a position of you know, hey, Dan is, are those cargo shorts working for you? Do you

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
think that you've already reached the pinnacle of style and nothing ever needs to change? And then if your answer is yes, I'll just say okay and we'll leave it there.

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
But if your answer is, you know, my ex girl friend used to give me a real hard time about those cargo shorts. Maybe maybe I do need to think about some other options and that I say, Dan, getting the car. We'll go to them all.

Dan:
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know the chapter he talks about on style and clothing, which I definitely, I'm sure you'll have quite a bit to talk about. But

Charles:
Oh yes,

Dan:
one you know, One of the one of the things was, you know, if you're trying to stand out from the crowd, then you know why are you going to wear what the crowd is wearing right? But there are good things to wear, and then there are not so good things to wear and we'll go into details about what that means.

Charles:
Yeah, I look. I'm looking forward more to that chapter than almost anything else, so

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
I look forward to getting into that one with you

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
and it will be going off the book quite a bit, because I mean there's a lot of good stuff about dressing and style in this book, but there's also a lot of things that I've picked up that I feel passionately a bout that we'll be able to get into, so we'll probably spend a couple episodes on that and still my goal to get our friends Curt Richard involved in that recording to, because I think that'd be a lot of fun.

Dan:
Absolutely

Charles:
Okay, so I think that covers. we covered a chapter on baldness. and and well, we'll go into facial hair in the next chapter, But I've got the the second part of my app Recommendations for cheap travel, which I've been talking about for a couple episodes. Now

Dan:
All right,

Charles:
I use an app called Hostile World as H, o, s t, l t, h, o

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
s t, i, l. Although that that could be an interesting app as well,

Dan:
Absolutely

Charles:
uh, yeah, so I use Hostile world, because When I travel alone, look when, when I travel with a partner, I want to get a good deal on a nice place that is romantic and private and makes us feel like we're doing something special when

Dan:
Yeah.

Charles:
I travel alone. The name of the game is avoid bed bugs and be as cheap as possible in service to rule number one. Avoid bed bugs.

Dan:
Yep.

Charles:
So if I can, if I can go to some place that is clean and dirt cheap, I don't share that. I have to share a bathroom with a bunch of guys or even share a dorm style room with a bunch of guys. Last time I went to York, I stayed for was that four nights or three nights. I think it was four nights, and I think my total bill was a hundred and eighty dollars for four nights,

Dan:
Wow.

Charles:
And I was Upper West side of Manhattan,

Dan:
Yeah.

Charles:
so there's no way I could have got en a hotel room for one night in that same geographic area. Uh, yeah, just for yeah,

Dan:
So

Charles:
what it cost

Dan:
so how

Charles:
me

Dan:
much?

Charles:
for

Dan:
how

Charles:
the

Dan:
much

Charles:
whole,

Dan:
do that? How much that bench in Central Park cost you each night?

Charles:
The place I stay is very

Dan:
What in

Charles:
nice

Dan:
the break down to?

Charles:
and I think I think isn't New York, one of those towns where they put the dividers on the benches now, so they're fine for sitting on, but you can't lay on them any more.

Dan:
Oh, I didn't

Charles:
I know

Dan:
know

Charles:
Orlando,

Dan:
that.

Charles:
Orlando

Dan:
Oh,

Charles:
definitely does that. Yeah,

Dan:
Oh,

Charles:
they put dividers

Dan:
I didn't

Charles:
on their benches.

Dan:
you know what? I did not know that that was for. I've seen them in a few places. I never knew. That was to stop people from sleeping on

Charles:
Yeah,

Dan:
the benches.

Charles:
no, it's it's not about. Oh, people really like, really appreciate arm breasts. That that's not what. That's about. What that's about is we're going to put these arm breast here every two and have feet so that you can't lay down.

Dan:
Wow,

Charles:
Yeah, so that's hyeah. Now I stay in a place. It's Hostiles, International, New York City, And yeah, it generally runs between forty and maybe even upper thirties and upper forties at night, And I stayed in a room with four other guys, And you know it's not as comfortable. You can't just walk around naked all the time and just come out of the shower without a towel or anything like that.

Dan:
Well, we talked

Charles:
There

Dan:
about

Charles:
are

Dan:
being vulnerable

Charles:
certain.

Dan:
here, man, I think you should know. this is a good practice and getting uncomfortable getting out your comfort zone.

Charles:
Yeah, you don't. You don't

Dan:
Uh,

Charles:
get in touch with

Dan:
uh,

Charles:
your vulnerability by making other people feel uncomfortable for you. That's That's not the way that we endorse that

Dan:
You gotta get everybody out of their comfort zone at once. I think that's that's the key.

Charles:
Whether they want it or not. Yea, so

Dan:
Oh,

Charles:
yeah, the app I use is hostile world. You just type in the place that you're going and then I generally look same as Amazon. I look for things that have a lot of reviews and a lot of mostly positive reviews. And when you find

Dan:
M.

Charles:
a place that you know gets you know a nine point five out of ten, then you can feel pretty good that when you stay there you're gonna have a good experience

Dan:
That's

Charles:
And

Dan:
great.

Charles:
so that is the app Use. Because again when when I'm traveling alone I, it's not that I don't feel entitled to stay somewhere nice. I just don't want to spend the money. I'd rather I'd rather have two or three or four trips to different cities for the same prices. It would take me to go to one and and have a room to myself, So your, your math may be different than mine, but when when I'm setting up these trips, that's the way I look at it, and I've stayed at great hostiles in Denver, Chicago, New York, Boston, D, C, And I've not yet had an experience even staying one even down in Porto Rico, which was kind of in San. An. that was the most rugged of the ones I've been to, but it was still fine. I mean, it's still clean and safe and I didn't have an issue with anything, so

Dan:
Nice.

Charles:
I use hostile world to find those places.

Dan:
Yeah, that's great, and I know I think you also said for doing a little bit of work. you rented a office

Charles:
Yeah,

Dan:
fairly and expensively, So I know I know one of the reasons why I like getting rooms and hotels is because you have to flip up my now. do some work. Whatever that is, You know, I need a spot to do that, but you know renting, you know, co, co, share a co work space

Charles:
Yeah,

Dan:
basically eliminates that. you know that the problem is actually probably live More conducive actually to getting to getting better work done too.

Charles:
Yeah, and a lot of the nicer hostiles do have work areas where you could set up. It's just that you know because hostiles

Dan:
M.

Charles:
typically have a younger crowd. I feel like there's you know when you're in a co, working space where you've bought a day pass, there's very little chance that somebody has got to just pull up some music on their phone and start playing it from the phone speaker. So you have to listen to their music on their crappy tinny sounding phone speaker. Where that that has happened to me, You know, it's sort of the common areas at a hostile before where it's never happened to me at a code Working space. Because if it does happen at Co working space, somebody who works there Ouse, you know, taps the person on the shoulders. Excuse me, could you put in some headphones please?

Dan:
Could you use your brain

Charles:
and

Dan:
please and

Charles:
exactly

Dan:
realize

Charles:
your

Dan:
you

Charles:
brain

Dan:
live?

Charles:
and your brain and your ears?

Dan:
But yeah, you do realize you're living a society

Charles:
Yeah, that drives me crazy as one of the things that

Dan:
On

Charles:
you know

Dan:
planes

Charles:
whenever

Dan:
off.

Charles:
my girl friend planes are terrible, but even you know just the hotel pool or going to the beach

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
and

Dan:
the

Charles:
somebody

Dan:
beach.

Charles:
you know

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
is playing their music for everyone else, whether anyone wants it or not. it's

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
like Have some have some social awareness. And if you're listening to us and you do that, knock it off.

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
Okay, you have an app or a life hack? You want to share Dawn before we break.

Dan:
I mean, you know, I know, I've probably talked about it before, but you know I really. I'm still using the whoop and which really

Charles:
Okay, Nice,

Dan:
to measure my recovery. And it's from And it's it's recovery from strain all day Because you know you're wearing all day and it's water proof you could wear in the shower and stuff. But it's not just measuring your strain that you know from from your workout, it's you know if you're if you an active day, just shopping and doing a lot of walking around or lifting things. Whatever it measures, you know your heart, It, your oxygen level, your skin temperature. All these things calculate your strain. and really, it's a great indicator for whether you know how recovered you are the next day and I know a lot of us. You know, we've got these regimented you work out plans and things like that, and you know all right these days I'm working out, and a lot of times I know I've pushed myself when I haven't been feeling a hunder percent, because I've committed to this workout plan

Charles:
Yep,

Dan:
and you know what oop will do is will show you all right. You didn't get enough recovery, so You may want to take it easy on the strain, and on those days where I'm getting, you can get a red, orange, green recovery on the red days. Even if I've got a workout plan, I skip it and I haven't. I've ended up getting making myself. You know, fairly close to being sick from from when I do that, or

Charles:
M,

Dan:
you know, so tired that my body just shuts down. I can't do anything at that point, Can't work. You know, I just got to sleep all day, so I've been able to better balance my my work out with what light Is throwing at me. Um, and it's you know, Unfortunately, I'm not one of. I'm not a professional athlete or a Hollywood actor Where all I have. All I have to do all day is as either work

Charles:
Right,

Dan:
out and eat right before I shoot, or you know match, But a lot of us function that way. Sometimes we just try to squeeze too much into our into our lives, so I really recommend a whoop for the easy way it is to figure out like recovery, You can get similar stuff from like Apple Watch and these other fit bit and stuff like that, but it's just not the same. It's not as clear. and then, at the end of each week and end of each month, you get to see all the other things that you've done Provided you fill out this now, a survey of what you did during that day. What you you know you know, Did you did you get massage therapy? Did you spend time outside? Did you? you know what kind of diet did you have Where for women knower having your menstral cycle, things like that, so all of those things will show you how it affects Your sleep, how it affects your recovery, and whether it enhances how well you recover or takes away from how will you recover, And it's very interesting to see things such as like, If you're sleeping in the room with an animal, That's That's one of the questions

Charles:
M.

Dan:
and how that affects your sleep, or whether you're sleeping in the same bed. So if you're traveling things like that, you know how how much your your bed or not sleeping at home actually affects you, and then you can take action on those things and actually hope you're Recovery, and over all your health, I believe as well, so it's a little expensive, but you know it comes out to like twenty five or thirty dollars a month, or you can you know, buy a year in advance, But if it really does help optimize your health, even if you're not a professional athlete,

Charles:
Yeah, I had it for a while. I'm not using it right now. I had your your old band you gifted to me and I appreciate that and I'm keeping it around because I know at some point when I've got some kind of a goal like you know, it's going to be time to hike another mountain at some point here,

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
and I'm going to need to get training and get in shape for that and you know that for me getting ready to do a mountain, a mountain us hike. that's of the you know, advanced level requires Me to hit the squat rack and cardio and get those things going, And you know the hoop is as beneficial for figuring out. Okay, you know, is it because some of the cardio that I do like low impact stuff like walking, even if it's fast walking or walking on an incline, you can do every day and you can recover from it every day. but when you combine it with, you know, hit the squat rack, you know. it's a little harder to tell. Okay if I recovered enough that

Dan:
Right,

Charles:
I need to just have a a sort of recovery day or I can go balls to the All and the whoop is helpful for making those determinations

Dan:
Yeah, you know. I mean, we really part of any type of progress that we want to make with our bodies physically Is we have to be con, consistently pushing the edge of our know of our ability,

Charles:
Right.

Dan:
our comfort level, and that's where sometimes it can be difficult to determine he. did I do too much, or did I do just enough? And Ah, the will help you figure out all right. Well, I've been, you know, pushing myself too much for too long. I can back off a little.

Charles:
Yeah, or the opposite crew too. Maybe you know you haven't been pushing yourself hard enough where you know There's There's a lot of guys who spent a lot of time going to the gym, and just mention the same amount of weight for the same number of sets and raps for years, and their body is not changing much and there, and their numbers aren't going up because they're They're not engaging in that you know stress recovery adaptation cycle that they need to,

Dan:
Yeah,

Charles:
and

Dan:
exactly

Charles:
the whoop the oop can clue you in on that too. To say Okay. If you're waking up every day with you know, Cover in the green. you're probably not pushing yourself enough.

Dan:
Yeah. Yeah, and you know the other thing too, Is it told me that I was getting Covid before I got Covid, because it measures it measures your breathing rate and your respiration, and so basically, when it knows what your norm is, and when it starts to get elevated, for example, you start breathing more off, and means you're taking shallower breaths, so I didn't even feel sick, but my numbers on the hoop are already going up. An there's some good articles on Whoops website showing how they. also, you know, basically talking about, You know from from the first, when that recent variants, what doesn't raly affect breathing quite as much. But you know

Charles:
M.

Dan:
initially it was it was an indicator and I think you know also, it's going to be similar if you're getting sick. If you drink a lot before it will. actually, Your respiratory rate actually does go up. if

Charles:
M,

Dan:
you've had a lot of alcohol actually, And so it can.

Charles:
M,

Dan:
And so it's an indicator of okay. Well, you know what you have? too many nights of heavy drinking. Yeah, that could contribute to actually see. You can see How it's affecting your body even though you may not feel it. It's very slight. It's It's different. Like fourteen. For me. it is like fourteen breaths a minute to like sixteen breaths a minute. and I mean

Charles:
M.

Dan:
right like I mean. like who

Charles:
Yeah,

Dan:
knows

Charles:
I would never notice that.

Dan:
nobody? Yeah, but but it notices and then you know it helps you. all right. Okay, you know, maybe I need to take it easier. Maybe not to have all these for another night in a row. Type of things so

Charles:
Yeah, so uh, yeah, look out for. at some point maybe we'll share a link where when you sign up for whoop will get some money right now. we don't and just you're on your own, but Dan and I have both had positive experiences with it, so it's worth checking out if you're trying. Especially if you're if you're trying to train toward a particular goal. It can definitely help you, you know, push yourself as hard as you need to, but not too hard. and you know it will. It will give you those indicators that you're on the right track. So cool. All right, All right, Dan. let's let's call it there for today, and then in our next episode we'll start talking about facial hair and what to do with that. and maybe in that episode if we don't spend too much time on faces, we'll talk about penussize.

Dan:
Nice?

Charles:
All right, cool, I will talk to you later,

Dan:
All right, sir, Have a go in. Bye bye.

Charles:
Bye.